I'm well experienced with BBQ's, especially with Weber, and am a gadget person. I've long used meat probes for cooking, have a Weber Genesis with built in wi-fi unit for heat probes. Works wonderfully. However, having recently added a Weber Q+ to my BBQ family, I went all in and also bought the expensive Weber Connect Hub. As a meat probes for cooking and connecting to my home wi-fi it works very well. BUT, the hub won't turn off. I've the online user guide (well, extensively searched thier FAQ'S, there's no specific user guide, very lazy of Weber methinks), which claims that it sleeps without probes attached, and the hub can be turned off. But that doesn't happen. No matter what I try, the doesn't swith off, and the battery goes flat overnight. I've gone back to using the competitor products. Reading reviews, it appears that others have this problem.